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Jan 22 2010, 02:00 PM
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R32 Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Beirut, Lebanon Member No.: 33,518 |
after less than a month driving my GTR after my perfect gearbox rebuilt, i was cruising today on 3rd gear, then i decided to shift to second gear to overtake a car, i down shifted , car accelerates like a missile, then 1 k before cutoff i hear a uninterupted sound like trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr coming from the engine, and some smoke going out of the engine, i look at the oil pressure and oil light in dash they are ok , i look in my rear view mirror and i see oil , i shift to neutral shut down the car and go to the side of the road to stop. i get down of the car open the engine from where smoke is going out, and i see all the oil under the car... at that point i was CONVINCED its an oil pipe that is broken, i called road service to get towed, go to the workshop, and... guess what............ broken cylinder block...... something seems to have broken on the crank, or piston or pushrods and made a big mess..the block is broken on both sides, i guess the broken part blew off left then right.. i was running on AP stage 2 97 version 2.0 the bad news: - i got AP , Y pipe and 5zigen, car is already blacklisted and out of warranty :( :( -new engine is 55,000 us$$$$!!!!!!!!!!! -i'm really really pissed -i hate nissan management! -we don't know yet the extent of the damage inside the engine the only good news: unlike the GR6, nissan sells engine parts and not only complete assembly.. otherwise i would put fuel on the car and burn it in front of the nissan showroom here is some pics, can anyone share any experience with the engine? any thoughts what could have happened? is there is any other cases with broken cylinders blocks???? i cant believe that the AP software upgrade could have blow off the engine.. these engines should support more than 70hp of upgraded power IMO im in love with the gtr but i HATE nissan |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:03 PM
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![]() R35 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,077 Joined: 6-August 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 24,715 |
after less than a month driving my GTR after my perfect gearbox rebuilt, i was cruising today on 3rd gear, then i decided to shift to second gear to overtake a car, i down shifted , car accelerates like a missile, then 1 k before cutoff i hear a uninterupted sound like trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr coming from the engine, and some smoke going out of the engine, i look at the oil pressure and oil light in dash they are ok , i look in my rear view mirror and i see oil , i shift to neutral shut down the car and go to the side of the road to stop. i get down of the car open the engine from where smoke is going out, and i see all the oil under the car... at that point i was CONVINCED its an oil pipe that is broken, i called road service to get towed, go to the workshop, and... guess what............ broken cylinder block...... something seems to have broken on the crank, or piston or pushrods and made a big mess..the block is broken on both sides, i guess the broken part blew off left then right.. i was running on AP stage 2 97 version 2.0 the bad news: - i got AP , Y pipe and 5zigen, car is already blacklisted and out of warranty :( :( -new engine is 55,000 us$$!!!!!!!!!!! -i'm really really pissed -i hate nissan management! -we don't know yet the extent of the damage inside the engine the only good news: unlike the GR6, nissan sells engine parts and not only complete assembly.. otherwise i would put fuel on the car and burn it in front of the nissan showroom here is some pics, can anyone share any experience with the engine? any thoughts what could have happened? is there is any other cases with broken cylinders blocks???? i cant believe that the AP software upgrade could have blow off the engine.. these engines should support more than 70hp of upgraded power IMO im in love with the gtr but i HATE nissan Man, this sux. I don't think that ap software caused this problem but Nissan will claim it did. I'm sorry to hear about this. Maybe you can get a Jun block or something. Good luck with everything. -------------------- 2009 Black on Black Premium AAM GT650-R 556whp 571wtq (from 420 stock)
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Jan 22 2010, 02:06 PM
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R32 Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Beirut, Lebanon Member No.: 33,518 |
Man, this sux. I don't think that ap software caused this problem but Nissan will claim it did. I'm sorry to hear about this. Maybe you can get a Jun block or something. Good luck with everything. thx man.. can you give me more details about jun? what is it? sorry i have no idea at all.. |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:12 PM
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![]() R33 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Vendors Posts: 730 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Oberlin, OH Member No.: 17,602 |
Hayek, I just sent you a PM about this - sorry to hear about your troubles. Check out what I had to say, and get back to me.
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Jan 22 2010, 02:13 PM
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![]() Thread Derailer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,848 Joined: 6-April 09 From: Abu Dhabi, UAE Member No.: 17,874 |
thx man.. can you give me more details about jun? what is it? sorry i have no idea at all.. contact R4Race of toprpm, they hay pretty detaild info about jun complete engines! -------------------- Nissan GT-R 09 -- sold
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Jan 22 2010, 02:13 PM
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www.goturnstop.com ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Vendors Posts: 1,237 Joined: 27-June 08 Member No.: 13,590 |
PM sent
Looks like the #2 piston failed based off the location of the hole and rod head sticking thru the engine code tag. This post has been edited by underpressure: Jan 22 2010, 02:15 PM -------------------- Authorized reseller:
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Jan 22 2010, 02:26 PM
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NAGTROC Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 13-November 09 Member No.: 32,455 |
Hi,
When your car was delivered? Now in EU NISSAN make a massive recaller of GTR (300 cars in EU) for the same problem... A lot of engine broken was change under warranty and few owners with AP, down pipes... was covered. Just read this post: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/130700-official...in-engines.html Hope this can help you |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:31 PM
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![]() So Fly i Got Jetlag ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,959 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Bahrain Member No.: 12,153 |
Oh man, that sux, sorry to hear bro. TopRpm and R4Race got info's regarding the JUN block and internal kit, good luck with this. Whats the fuel rate in Leb?
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Jan 22 2010, 02:32 PM
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R32 Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Beirut, Lebanon Member No.: 33,518 |
Hi, When your car was delivered? Now in EU NISSAN make a massive recaller of GTR (300 cars in EU) for the same problem... A lot of engine broken was change under warranty and few owners with AP, down pipes... was covered. Just read this post: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/130700-official...in-engines.html Hope this can help you unfortunately my car is an MY09, VVIP US spec car, delivered on september 08.. |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:32 PM
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![]() R33 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Vendors Posts: 730 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Oberlin, OH Member No.: 17,602 |
Hi, When your car was delivered? Now in EU NISSAN make a massive recaller of GTR (300 cars in EU) for the same problem... A lot of engine broken was change under warranty and few owners with AP, down pipes... was covered. Just read this post: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/130700-official...in-engines.html Hope this can help you Good find. New thread? -------------------- SWITZER
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Jan 22 2010, 02:34 PM
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R32 Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Beirut, Lebanon Member No.: 33,518 |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:36 PM
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R32 Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Beirut, Lebanon Member No.: 33,518 |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:39 PM
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NAGTROC Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Miami/Cali Member No.: 37,715 |
Now that blows. Do any insurance job.
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Jan 22 2010, 02:45 PM
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![]() R33 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Vendors Posts: 572 Joined: 4-June 09 From: Fontana, CA Member No.: 21,190 |
Sorry to hear the bad news.
Let me know if I can help with replacing OEM parts. I'd be happy to take care of ya! Scott -------------------- |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:56 PM
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www.goturnstop.com ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Vendors Posts: 1,237 Joined: 27-June 08 Member No.: 13,590 |
i just saw the thread of your car and noticed your chassis number is 425, mine is 443... bad batch of engines?? I was making 550hp when it went. Don't think its due to bad motors. The early cars make more power then the later cars. Proven time and time again on the dyno. During the rebuilt of mine I found a couple discrepancies between the FSM and the parts measured coming out of the old motor. Those would account for some of the power differences. -------------------- Authorized reseller:
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Jan 22 2010, 02:58 PM
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R34 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,285 Joined: 19-June 09 Member No.: 21,839 |
I was making 550hp when it went. Don't think its due to bad motors. The early cars make more power then the later cars. Proven time and time again on the dyno. During the rebuilt of mine I found a couple discrepancies between the FSM and the parts measured coming out of the old motor. Those would account for some of the power differences. bare block is like 2600 bux from nissan. As long as you didnt destroy anything with your head, i think you can build a block for probably in the 10-12k range.. not 55000.. that to me sounds like a complete long block. Mark -------------------- ![]() 2009 GT-R Gunmetal Premium 20" Volk G2s with Toyo R888's Password JDM wide Fenders Password JDM Trunk (Modified For Wing) Zele Side Skirts Aeromotions S2 Active Wing 2009 GT1 Replica Vinyl Wrap Boost Logic Turbo Kit (Twin Precisions 5857 .64 A/R Billet DBB Turbos, Wastegates vented to atmosphere) Custom Fuel System (1/2 Gal. Surgetank, Dual Bosch 044, Modified Stock Rails, ID2000 cc injectors, Aeromotive FPR) Haltech ECU (Speed Density Setup, With Dual Widebands) Cobb ECU (Raising Rev Limiter, Launch Control Control) HKS EVC 6 Synapse BOV's Os Geiken TCD Rear Diff Stillen Sway Bars KW Varient 3 Coil Overs |
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Jan 22 2010, 03:00 PM
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R33 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 756 Joined: 25-May 09 From: new york Member No.: 20,718 |
i feel for you bro, good luck. thats why i traded mine in i was afraid of this very exact scenario happening to me. But good luck and im sure you will be back and running soon.
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Jan 22 2010, 03:04 PM
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![]() R35 Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,293 Joined: 22-October 07 From: Aloha Member No.: 12,161 |
I was making 550hp when it went. Don't think its due to bad motors. The early cars make more power then the later cars. Proven time and time again on the dyno. During the rebuilt of mine I found a couple discrepancies between the FSM and the parts measured coming out of the old motor. Those would account for some of the power differences. wow, I didnt even know your motor blew....did you ever find the reason why? -------------------- best 1/4 = 10.80 @ 129.3 MPH
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Jan 22 2010, 03:09 PM
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![]() R32 Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 18-January 10 Member No.: 38,119 |
What does one do if they blow an engine and it is blacklisted with no warranty?? Can you get insurance to cover it? Or are you just S.O.L.??
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Jan 22 2010, 03:13 PM
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www.goturnstop.com ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Vendors Posts: 1,237 Joined: 27-June 08 Member No.: 13,590 |
wow, I didnt even know your motor blew....did you ever find the reason why? http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?sh...c=36691&hl= -------------------- Authorized reseller:
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