the production car will be unveiled in the game to coincide with the TMS in october as a download for PS3


here is the deal the demo is out OCT 24th. and will feature a playable unmasked production GT-R with full specs


here are the tease shots released today including a Hi-Res shot of the redesigned fascia

from a video game???

in short yes a video game.


but much much more than that. this is gran turismo who have signed a huge promotional deal with nissan. the GT-R will be unveiled in the game with the TMS debut. polyphony work closely with nissan and have seen the car and this is the photorealistic renditon of the production car. the mask was added as a tease until the motorshow.

this is an exact render of the production car. you can clearly see now the differences to the production front fascia even more than the spy shots in the past.

i have a press credentials for Gran turismo site so i get the full resolution shots. these were released today and to the keen eye they are a bigger clue than anything weve seen in the last months. if you click the other link they have the proto and the production next to one another. you the difference are very apparent

It looks exactly like the most recent shots of the GTR we've already seen.

Wow GT5 will look amazing, my HD tv is waiting for it's arrival.

yeah mine too.



the differences in the middle nose part are more clear to me in these renders than some of the spy shots ive seen especially with having the proto in the same shot

What other link?


Has to be the a first to debut a car in real life and a video game at the same time. I bet we will have some slow download times.

@ mask in the videogame ... sorry i just think thats funny

looking at pics of the front lights, it seems like there's another light below the projector. i wonder what its for.
also, i wonder what the inner reflector is for... maybe its a fog/hi beam light like the g35 coupes had?
seems like a step back from the bixenon headlights we have these days.

oh well , either way, i can already see the mods coming... dual hid projectors....

oh there is no other link, i merged two threads together after i posted that.



as far a downloads. right now its only for japan so you need to have a japanese account set up (easy to do)

from my understanding Oct 20th a demo comes out. OCt 24th a TMS demo comes out featuring the production GT-R and the Evo X

http://jalopnik.com/cars/tokyo-auto-show/n...mo-5-301791.php

It looks like there are 2 vents in the lower grill opening. Wonder what these will lead to? Brakes,oil coolers..this wait is getting hard.

i was looking at what almost looks like 2 small intercoolers side by side behind the grill mesh

looks like they would be ducting for brakes...but its hard to say for sure

do you think this means the under the headlight ducts from the proto might be gone now?

I doubt it. From the spy pics you can make out ducts below the lights.
I don't think they would have them there during testing then just get rid of them.

I'm sure a majority of the middle portion is for the radiator, intercooler, fans, but it's hard to tell on the black side parts (which I dont really like in many pics) if there is a spot for brake cooling, I sure hope they address that on this car, Porsche seems to leave it out many time on the 911's because of the front/side IC's and Radiators. Brake cooling will be a must.

how about if its just indentions now similar to whats on the rear bumper above the exausts?

i liked the ducts under the lights but if these are ducts in the grill will it be 4 ducts two on each side?

If they added any more ducts on this vehicle then you can forget about aerodynamics. The GTR will inturn result in an increased amount of frontal drag. The GTR has a big enough opening upfront to begin with.
What I do see here and compared to that of the most recent pictures of the GTR leads me to believe what we see is what we will get aside from the coverings. The GTR does have a one piece FMIC and it's about 98% done exterior wise. It just would be silly for them to go to that extent of change away from what has already been tested at the ring and in US. tracks. So that's why I believe what we see is about 98% done exterior wise. Like you mentioned this is a 100% render from the actual car which adds to the legitimacy.

Also to add to that if you look above the larger opening where it's darker, it's function is to direct more ambient air to the Radiator since the lower portion see's the majority of the air for IC and braking ducts. There is no doubt in my mind when looking at the front bumper you can see the design intentions almost immediately.
You can see how more forward and pronounced the IC is, thus why we can actually see it vs. the radiator/condenser above in the dark.

Radiators are generally mounted in conjunction with the IC's, I doubt the top opening is for the radiator, because I doubt the radiator would be that high. I think the top part is for the intake, a radiator right there would completely eliminate the intake.

after looking it over carefully,
i think there is ducting that is hidden.

if you look at this image you will see the concavity around the front under the light, look at where the right seam is (barely visible, toward the inside of the passenger headlight):


look at what that lines up with:
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?ac...st&id=16452

why would nissan cover it, if its functional?
maybe the material is breathable. or maybe the ducting is primarily for hotter environments. i dont know why they'd leave it covered, but that's what i think.

all the pics today show, is a rendering which (1) isnt guaranteed to be 100% accurate like the pictures of the real thing are and (2) even though its likely close to the real thing, doesn't show where the ducting goes..so maybe it doesnt go to the brakes, HOWEVER, you can see some ripples in the material indicating where ducting might be:

No it's not that high at all that opening is large enough to accommodate both radiator and Intake. Ofcourse the radiator will be slightly just below that opening but it will benefit.

There is a picture of the GTR with it's hood open I believe at Leguna which explains it all.

I doubt it what I see is the result of the protruded upper and lower portion of the bumper right above it which causes the ripple effect you see. I give it a 0% chance of it being a duct.

Here you can clearly see the height of the cover and opening for both radiator and further in there a channel for the intake box to receive fresh air.

Is it just me, or will the car look a bit 'naked' by the time it's fully revealed - we're so used to seeing it with the matching two piece car-bra and panties - maybe you'll be able to buy them in the parts section and put them back on for that true 'GTR' feel

http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/babelfi...53557d8efe.html

Wow most importantly 2 GTR's with 6pot cals.

that makes my color decision for me.........top please

It looks like real pics in the magazine.

Looks like I'm getting a PS3 early.

GT5 will claim my life.

Gran Turismo has to be kicking themselves right now for being a PS3 only game, they would have made so much more with Xbox360, especially a game that is very good with Xbox live, Forza is kicking butt right now, and GT5 better come with it to retake the crown. Of course the graphics will be better, but there is still much more to offer on 360.




You still cant see the radiator there, or am I missing something? Several cars have extra space above bumper for air that the rdiator doesnt completely cover. I dont doubt that it may come in to part of it, but it must get air from both top and bottom then, because that top alone is not sufficient for a radiator, especially when combined with a intake.

So what is this "more to offer on 360" you're talking about? What can it do on the 360 that won't be done on the PS3? I'm curious. Oh and Forza 2 hardly has the crown. The graphics weren't next gen, there were no weather effects and the car list wasn't that high either. It was barely a step up from the original Forza.

Yeah exactly you can't see it in that picture but I found this one where it's blatantly clear, you can actually see it in the picture below. I feel 100% sure on this if you disagree that's fine. In this case it's not like other cars with extra space for no apparent reason. Look at how the FMIC is much more forward in this picture which suggest it's infront of the radiator as it should be.Then look above where the radiator is it's slightly fainted in comparison to the FMIC. The front bumper is designed aerodynamically and specifically directs air where it's needed.

This just shows the ingenuity put in this car. Everything you see on this car is functional the engineers really make it clear to me, they truly mean business and theres nothing on this car that doesn't serve a purpose. The GTR at this caliber is going to need all of the fresh air it can get, remember it's a track car by heart no monkeying around here.

shouldnt the IC be connected between the turbo and engine

The drawing above makes no sense. From the diagram, the turbos would be forcing air back out through the air box.

GT5 just may be the reason to get a PS3

Thanks I knew some of you guys may find it humorous but I'm no artist lol but this drawing is very accurate and makes clear sense.

The IC I drew is a 2pice setup internally and one unit externally. IYou can see the seem in the middle of the IC, very clear in the Nurburg shots. So that led me to believe the IC is actually a 2piece design as one unit.

lol I made a mistake, revised.. again I'm no artist I tried I was a little bored last night.

But finally in the picture above you can see where everything is coming and going.

I tried my hardest to play Forza 2 a little because it's beautiful, but I'd seriously rather play Gran Turismo 2 than Forza. Forza is more in the Need for Speed type arcade racer genre than the Gran Turismo/car sim genre as far as I'm concerned.

On the other hand, I've spent about 2 hours per week at Target playing the Gran Turismo HD demo on their PS3 display, because I'm lovin' it. I'm really biased, though.

If Sony keeps on jerking Polyphony around trying to get them in on the whole "microtransaction" bandwagon, I could see them going to other platforms. But not Microsoft I guess, because Microsoft sorta started that whole evil but enevitable practice (paying a few bucks here and there for new downloadable content, after paying the $50-$60 for the game itself.) Yea I'd equate Polyphony releasing a title on 360 to Nascar kicking Ford and Chevy out of the Nextel Cup to let Hyundai and Scion in.

Project Gotham Racing 4 will "Finish the Fight" (PGR3 1st to have the GTR concept from 2001 in their game)


http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/21/project...versus-reality/

PLUS... werent you the one crying earlier about "fanboy-ism"??? dont get mad , Im sure Gran Turismo will have collision damage etc.... maybe...

lol, i kid, I'll probably buy a PS3 after another price drop

PLUS I think HEAVY CHEVY means that LIVE is a better service for matchmaking etc... and MS has that awesome wireless racing wheel

really? you crash and get damage in Forza and in GT you can bounce off walls with no damage at 140mph....

sorry , im very biased after the crap that was GT3, thats when I jumped to forza and project gotham

Haha I really don't get all you guys that care so much about vehicle damage, of all things. It really doesn't add anything to a game for me, especially since I never crash. heh, semi-kidding ;-)

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The game developer went as far as to keep the mask as in test mule, and they even got the details of showing the 7 sided, what looks like, stitch lines shape around the tail lights. But they did missed something or did they not? Its those bumps on the mask by the side just in front of the front wheel and behing the back wheel.

the picture below tells me there are structures behind the mask (in this case the back end) and it's not from the mask

Click to view attachment

http://www.gamespot.com/video/942026/61794...meplay-movie-14

http://www.gamespot.com/video/942026/61796...a-500-feature-6

I second that, I'm a huge GT fan, people over at GTplanet.net have prefusly debated the damage thing for years. The bottom line is most GT&Forza fans consider damage as a NeedForSpeed feature right now. Since Forza 2 came out IMO damage is much better from F1 but still way too arcadish for my taste. Either console has yet proved to me they can add damage and still maintain driver realism and graphics. What's most important is how close is it to real life behavior.
I rather not have damage at al if it's going to hinder my graphics or drivers feedback, as F2 does.
That's why Gran Turismo hails as one of the best racing simulation to ever come out. Because actual game play and physics has always come first with PolyphonyDigital. GT5 will push that envelope even farther.

lol Daytona oval? Their trying to grab Nascar fans? j/k

I love Dyatona but most importantly I hope they add in the Road Course and maybe even the Rolex 24Hr. I hope if not added in Prologue but in GT5 later on in the future.

It's going to be very exciting to race with all those cars.

Really nice. Suzuka full Circuit.



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Word, GT5 will be the bomb diggity.



GTR: taking Nascar by storm!